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    wrote...
    I find it offensive
    that in defending her religion, the woman interviewed said: "The main difference between being a witch and just following a religion is, instead of just sitting down and asking God to help us, we actually take the steps ourselves." Most followers of religion do take steps to help themselves - they don't just pray away their problems. As a Christian, I would never insult another religion the way this woman insulted mine - I think that's the main difference between our two religions.
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    happynow66 wrote...
    you are looking for a reason to be offended
    I think you took that wrong, I was Christian for 20 years and it isn’t the same. Do you pray? Do you ask your god for help or do you take YOUR energy and merge it with your god, Air, Fire, Water, Earth and Spirit to achieve positive change in your life? THAT is the difference, you ask for things, we work to get them done through energy work, meditation and spell work, that is not an insult-IT IS FACT!! Had she said you ask for things from God like a child would from Santa Clause, That would have been an insult, she was just honest.
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    happynow66 wrote...
    There are more Similarities than differences
    The main differences between the Religions is in your religion you are humans that have spiritual experiences, in ours we are spirits having human experiences- We own our Power, we don’t “hope and pray” for things to go our way. Seeing how over 90% of our members where Christians before we became Pagans, we know about your religion, you should learn about ours before you assume you know.
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  • wrote...
    clearly
    It is offensive to imply that people of other religions are sitting around praying that God solves their problems, especially since it is not true. Those with true faith can respect other belief systems without criticizing.Yes, I pray, but not for divine intervention, as the quote implies. I know God created me with the ability to solve my own problems. As well, I realize that the gifts I was endowed with are for the greater good, not my own, so yes, I live my life to make positive changes - as do most Christians.
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  • happynow66 wrote...
    unitl you have been BOTH Religions...
    you would not be able to understand. It is different, if you have not done spell work you would would not undertsand the difference. I have been both so I can see the differences. If what you do works for you, awesome, you are blessed. Us witches also pray, but energy work is different. No one stated that it is bad or wrong, just different and IT IS.
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    wrote...
    Oh, I believe they are different
    I'm not pretending that the two religions are not very different. I'm just saying that to defend the wiccan religion, it shouldn't be necessary to insult followers of other relgions and implying that followers of other religions simply sit around and wait for God to intervene, well, that's pretty insulting whether you want to admit it or not. And if you are stooping to insulting others to defend your own religion, I certainly would not call that "positive" energy work.
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  • happynow66 wrote...
    it wasnt an insult
    it was a statement about the differences. Period. You can read as much into as you wish. People like to find reasons to be mad when others point out things. You believe what you will but I remember praying and going to confession and asking for forgiveness, I do not remember being taught to do anything other trusting in god and he will fix it, that is different to me. I know just as many Christians as I do Pagans and the foot work is different. PERIOD. Thank you for your point of view. I hope you shed your bitterness someday and stop being on the defensive. Good luck.
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    wrote...
    Not bitter
    Just simply pointing out that the quote in the story, which claims to highlight the difference between the wiccan religion and other religions is based on a pretty big lie - and a lie that is offensive to others. I hope someday you are able to understand that people other than yourself might have feelings, and when you intentionally insult them, the appropriate response is an apology. It would appear by your posts that you are in fact the bitter one dear, not me.
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  • happynow66 wrote...
    first off
    I was not the one who was quoted; I was not the one interviewed so why would I give an apology. It was not a lie, merely an opinion and was taken out of a 20 min interview and chopped up so the true context was never really even given. It was not aimed at your or your religion seeing how no religion was even named specifically. It seems pretty egocentric to take it so personally. It is sad that you choose to be offended and over react by a simple general statement. Any further words to you would be wasted. Again good luck, I go in peace.
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    truthordare wrote...
    yes there is
    that is so true, the similarities are far beyond the differences
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    I didn't say you are the person quoted
    but you spent a lot of time defending a quote that implies people of other religions pray for God to intervene in their lives rather than taking steps to better themselves. Sorry, but that's what the quote says, and it's incorrect and offensive. In defending that quote you resorted to insult - "bitter," "looking to be offended," etc. In other posts you called people shallow, narrow-minded and said you were "prosecuted" for your beliefs. I did not say anything negative about you or your religion. I simply pointed out that I don't appreciate the distortion in the quote.
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    gilbert armenta wrote...
    for what it's worth
    I agree Melissa, the comment was a jab at Christianity and those who pray to God. The irony is that not only do I pray to god to help me stay fit, i also then go out and eat correctly and work out. I might not attempt to merge my spirit with fire or some other such, but the magic of healthy eating and a bit of prayer seams to return excellent results in most cases.
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    Awbha wrote...
    She said God
    Not Christ, how do you know she wasn't talking about Muslims, or Jews? Your a mind reader?
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    truthordare wrote...
    witches pray to God
    shows you know not about what you speak because Wiccans and Witches DO pray to God. They also eat healthy and workout, you have missed the point understandably seeing until you have done the kind of work they do, you would not know. Also, did either one of you bother to think that maybe that quotes was taken out of context? No one asked you to defend your beliefs, the whole point of the story is that NO ONE should have to as long as they harm none and that in itself is the Witches crede.
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    happynow66 wrote...
    maybe
    if you had been harmed because of your beliefs (beliefs that Christ himself followed) you would ready to defend when people find fault in another’s options and take it personal when it was not meant as a dig, just a difference. Maybe YOU do your foot steps and the work in your life to bring about change but many Christians do not so I still do not see why it offended you that she believes that is a difference between the religions. For what its worth, we just want the same freedom you all have to practice a faith that was here long before Christianity.
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  • berealnow wrote...
    well said
    So true, she do not mention Christ. Funny how right away the Christains have to get all hurt and offended, it just shows that they awesome because they feel Christ is God that Everyone else does.
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  • berealnow wrote...
    no one
    should be put down or hurt because they follow a different path then the newer mainstream religions, isn’t that what the story is about. I follow my own faith but know many Witches and Pagans and everyone of them is open minded and respects the beliefs of others, that can not be said for other religious groups to try and force their beliefs onto others.
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    Awbha wrote...
    Defending her religion?
    What makes you think she was defending her religion? This was an interview, not an interrogation. She wasn't defending her religion, she was answering a question. "The main difference between being a witch and just following a religion" please note it doesn't even say christianity here, it says "a religion" Actually knowing Rosemary for many years as I do, she could just as easily have been talking about people who follow Pagan religions. She was comparing being a witch to following a religion.
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  • Awbha wrote...
    Personally what I find offensive....
    is that everytime I speak to someone who is not pagan they always ask the same thing. "What makes your religion different?" Instead of looking for differences, couldn't we look for the ways we are alike and focus on those?
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  • simplcgy me wrote...
    My two cents
    Well, I took the quote in the story the same way, but felt the woman was talking about all other religions saying that people of all other religions don't take action but rather pray to God for intervention. Anyway you look at it, the quote is a pretty bad distortion of other religions. Doesn't matter what she meant. What matters is what she said. Followers of most religions are not passive followers. Jews, Christans, Muslims, Buddists all take active steps resolve conflicts, etc.
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  • truthordare wrote...
    does it matter you missed the point again?
    The quote you are fussing about was taken out a 20 min interview, it was taken out of context,chopped and was just a piece of a sentence, had you heard the whole interview the meaning may have been different. I know her personally and I know she does not judge or put down any religion of faith,you DO NOT KNOW WHAT SHE SIAD IN ITS ENTIRETY, again the whole point of the story was not what her personal belief about the differences are, the story was about Witches and their right to have their faith openly without repercussions, sad how people got stuck on something and miss the real point.
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  • cincykid wrote...
    As a born again Christian...
    (one who accepts what Christ accomplished on the cross, that person is - by the authority of God's Word- now having the Holy Spirit dwelling within. As a result, one is one third Holy Spirit, soul, and body. However, it is the Holy Spirit that gives the power. The Bible says a believer has the mind of Christ and has been given all the spiritual blessings. And, these are given by GRACE, through faith, and NOT by works. Every day people are being healed and receiving blessings in the name of Jesus. Can any other religion boast the same????
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