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  • Kevin in San Tan Valley wrote...
    SQUAW PEAK is it's REAL NAME
    NOT the Politically Correct "inversion" that was DUMPED ON US by Janet Na-politician in order to gain favor for purely political reasons - so just so there's no mistaking here - it is SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK - SQUAW PEAK !!!!!
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    Some backwards types continue
    to favor that racially and sexually derogatory place names be retained. Thankfully, progressive thinkers understand the harm done by continuing those pejorative uses and act to change them. BTW, I echo the comment that wonders how 50 could be considered elderly. I still thought of myself as a young man back then and could physically outperform most men half my age.
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  • Bo9fan wrote...
    Amen!
    You're so right about that! Those of us who grew up in Phoenix have always known our distinctive Valley mountain as Squaw Peak. Never did a derogatory thought enter our minds regarding our beautiful landmark's name. It wasn't until Ms. Napolitano decided that changing its name could be used to draw attention to her, politically, that the name change occurred. I'm sorry for the loss of any soldier's life in the line of duty. However, changing the established name of our prominent landmark isn't the way to honor Lori Piestewa's sacrifice. Squaw Peak will ALWAYS be Squaw Peak!
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  • Bo9fan wrote...
    Elderly?
    If 50 is elderly, then I must be ancient at 60! :(
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  • Kay Bergey wrote...
    SQUAW PEAK, SQUAW PEAK, SQUAWPEAK
    For those who didn't get it the first time! And THANK YOU, Kevin!
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  • Parker-Ballpoint wrote...
    If a tree falls in the forest and no
    one hears it, did it make any noise? Most people never knew about the possible interpretation of the term squaw until a certain cause waiting for a place to happen (Susan Harjo)decided to make her 10 minutes of fame happen. Read the following, maybe you will learn something, though by reading your rants, it's doubtful that you'll absorb it. http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/squaw.html
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    You really, really should read the articles
    you reference. From author Bruchac: "By way of explanation to readers, I wish to clarify my stance on the controversies regarding the use of the word "squaw." I have NEVER supported continued use of the word as a pejorative insult directed at Native women, and I am NOT opposed to the concept of changing place names. When we choose to change "squaw" place names, we can claim the opportunity to recover original indigenous place names, reinforce respect for local indigenous histories, and support Native language reclamation efforts." Author Bruchac would endorse the name change.
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    Most people, at sometime or other,
    and without intending to, will say something that gives offense. Most civil people who do this will want to know why this thing that was said should give offense. Having understood the concern from the point of view the offended person, this civil soul may decide not to say this same thing again to the same person or in the same context. This is what those of us do who wish to maintain a civil society and healthy interpersonal relationships.
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  • Parker-Ballpoint wrote...
    First paragraph of link:
    Squaw is NOT an English word. It IS a phoenetic rendering of an Algonkian word that does NOT translate to "a woman's private parts." The word "squaw" - as "esqua," "squa," "skwa," "skwe" and other variants - traditionally means the totality of being female, not just the female anatomy. The word has been interpreted by modern activists as a slanderous assault against Native American women.
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  • Parker-Ballpoint wrote...
    Continued
    But traditional Algonkian speakers, in both Indian and English, still say words like "nidobaskwa" = a female friend, "manigebeskwa" = woman of the woods, or "Squaw Sachem" = female chief. When Abenaki people sing the Birth Song, they address "nuncksquassis" = "little woman baby."
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  • Parker-Ballpoint wrote...
    Like I said. You'll refuse
    to absorb - even the first paragraph.
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  • Sam47Az wrote...
    No Kevin, you're wrong
    The mountain WAS named Squaw Peak, but it was RENAMED and the name has been ACCEPTED by the USGS.
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    You can hide yourself inside of
    that first paragraph if it makes you feel comfortable. I can provide you with volumes and introduce you to local Native Americans who can express to you eyeball to eyeball why most historical and contemporary uses were meant pejoratively. Even the author of the article to which you referred me agrees with my take. You ego defense is pretty transparent.
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  • SpaceRig wrote...
    Get over it, the name has changed
    Well, I'm glad derogatory thoughts didn't enter your mind when calling it squaw peak but that doesn't change the fact that it's an offensive and racist word. Would we be having this conversation if it was called "ni@@er hill" for 100 years?
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  • wrote...
    Squaw Peak
    Glad someone remembers the correct name. I lived in Phoenix area for 37 years and love Squaw Peak, there is no insult to any tribe for that. I didn't even recognize the new name in the article.
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  • Parker-Ballpoint wrote...
    You can hide yourself inside of
    your pollyanna view and arrogant ignorance if it makes you feel comfortable. I provided you with a factual quote from a factual native American. Your take was a total miss to the point of my post which simply stated for your benefit is that most people, even native Americans knew nothing about the supposed interpretation of the word squaw until some headline seeking miscreant decided to turn it into her 5 minutes of fame.
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    Really? I supply an extended quote
    offering the same author's opinion from the exact same web site you referred me to, and you'd like to pretend that it is irrelevant to our discussion. Talk about picking and choosing. You also want to be considered an expert in the opinions and general knowledge in Native American communities. I don't believe you know most Native Americans or their mind. Here's an easy do it yourselfer: Test your theory in the real world. Wander on down to the Sacaton Super Mart, address any female that is present as squaw while asking for information. See if your theory holds up.
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  • x suns fan wrote...
    ok ok we should just deal with the name change
    But what does Piestewa mean..?sorry about the hiker..
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  • x suns fan wrote...
    I bet most
    of you can't make it to the top ..give me a break if it bothers native Americans ..let it go..
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    Most Native American names
    ending in Tewa indicate some relationship to the Puebloan peoples of northern New Mexico and Arizona. It is a tribal self designation. They are among the longest term inhabitants of our state.
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  • Michoacan wrote...
    I'm well into my seventh
    decade, and I will leave you in my dust, X.
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