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PHOENIX -- Last year, undocumented workers received over $4 billion in benefits from the United States government.

It's because of the dependents they're claiming on their tax returns. Even though they may be here illegally and aren't supposed to have a Social Security number, the Internal Revenue Service still requires them to pay taxes and gives aliens a special identification number to file a return.

Under the additional child tax credit, they get an extra $1,000 dollars for every child they claim as a dependent.

Valley immigrant-rights attorney Daniel Ortega said this is news to him.

"Then again, I don't do any tax-preparation work and I'm not involved in any tax law," he said.

Some people are abusing the loophole. WTHR-TV in Indianapolis, for example, found four illegal immigrants in one mobile home who claimed 20 dependents. They received nearly $30,000 from the IRS, but only one child was living in the home.

Ortega said those who break the law should be prosecuted or deported.

"Anyone of any background should not commit fraud on their taxes," he said.

"If that is the case and that is true, then they should be dealt with -- whether they're rich or poor, undocumented or not -- in the same fashion as anybody else."

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    Minuteman wrote...
    Take the blinders off there Danny boy
    Valley immigrant-rights attorney Daniel Ortega said this is news to him. yeah right!! What a joke. $4 billion more wasted on illegal aliens from tax payers pockets..
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    wrote...
    Not surprised
    What do you expect, afterall, illegals are criminals. Criminals do what they know best, how to commit crimes. It's not enough to just cross the border, but most have to steal someone else's identity and commit fraud, and that appears to be the minimum lengths these people will go to. Real honorable right there (sarcasm). Millions of immigrants do things the right way every year, those are the immigrants I want here. Those are the people whom I respect.
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    Steve wrote...
    When people make the same claims
    others call them bigots and racists, but then when the government makes the same claims it's either ignored or justified for them taking the money.
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    Solitaire wrote...
    Oretga
    You need to get out of law because you don't understand the law. Immigrant-rights attorney yeah. We know who is on the wrong side of the law and you are one of them. Guess that 4 Billion in waste of taxpayers dollars enters some how in your pocket. They need to get the H... out of our country.
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    Solitaire wrote...
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    Patriot wrote...
    Hey Gilber
    here's one of the answers as to why they come here. Remember you thought the BP study would be great because you don't know why they come here.
    **ICE Tip-line 1-866-DHS-2ICE**
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    Jim Sanson wrote...
    Well
    Why not just change our names, open a few different bank accounts, and drain the IRS? Then once those accounts get the refunds take the cash out, and close the accounts? If illegals can do then so can anybody.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    The illegal immigrants filing for this
    credit do so using an assigned tax ID number, not a stolen SSN. This process is currently the law of the land and required of wage earning, tax paying illegal immigrants. Ortega is right. Where fraud and abuse occur, just as it does with American citizens, it should be investigated and prosecuted. The report does not discuss the tax receipts garnered from those illegal immigrants and does not say that the $4.2 billion was fraudulently obtained.
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    Steve wrote...
    In similar news
    Obama's Auntie Zeituni has written a book. It's called "Tears of Abuse," on account of how tough she's had it. This is no joke.
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    Steve wrote...
    That is not entirely true
    Many use stolen SSN's to get tax returns. Some of the biggest abuse occurs in the business environment. In fact the IRS and SSA know who the illegal abusers are, but ignore it because to them as long as the money rolls in.
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    Patriot wrote...
    This is why they come here
    protected and benefited by the Federal Government.
    **ICE Tip-line 1-866-DHS-2ICE**
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    The Conservative wrote...
    They
    (the criminal illegal invaders) love coming here illegally, asking for handouts, telling obummer gimme gimme gimme, and, they get it, while LEGAL citizens that need help get NOTHING!
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    The Conservative wrote...
    They also have
    anchor carpet munchers, abo....whom you support!
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    Michoacan wrote...
    My comment was restricted to
    Discussion of these credits and their tax ID numbers.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    It's the law.
    Don't like it? Work to change it.
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    jsco22 wrote...
    As I pointed out to you
    the other day Micho, it is fraud when they claim other family members that still live in Mexico and are not even their children. That is how they get over 10K back, it's fraud but I don't expect you to ever understand that since the left won't tell you that so how could it be true. It's fact, grow up and deal with it.
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    Steve wrote...
    It has every bit to do
    with the credits and tax id numbers. It seems to me based on your comments, you are fine with this finding. Are you ok that illegal aliens take this money from the government?
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    Steve wrote...
    I'll ask the question for Patriot and Myself
    Do you think this is acceptable?
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    Minuteman wrote...
    20 dependants in one
    trailer, that the "law of the land" micho? Really those are the people using assigned tax id numbers the correct way.. This is what happens when you have groups like lydia Guzman and Randy Parraz oh yeah and good ole Danny Ortega with their blinders on. People that knowingly break one law will continue to break others until they are caught. Those groups that continue to fight for these fake "immigrants" are a big part of why we have such huge deficits. AZ alone $1.6 billion on illegals and that just the jail system..
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    jsco22 wrote...
    I love it Micho
    You are in support of this law (stealing taxpayers money) but you aren't in support of other laws (illegal immigration). You can't pick and choose the laws you follow, a law is a law, if you accept this law, accept the illegal immigration law that mirrors the federal immigration law. Don't like it? Leave the country.
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    wrote...
    Yep
    Immigration is already a bad thing - it is a self-selection process of "losers" from other countries. You generally aren't going to get educated people engaged in honest activity - we tend to get grifters one step ahead of the law or a lynch party in their native country. And illegal aliens are those whose first act is to break the law.
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    wrote...
    Wrong
    So none use stolen SSN's BS! If they are illegals then it is fraud.
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    gilbert armenta wrote...
    what's an
    Anchor carpet muncher?
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    jsco22 wrote...
    I always
    thought carpet muncher was a derogatory term for lesbian. I haven't that term in years. Anchor refers to anchor babies, the way illegal immigrants come here, give birth so they can stay in the country. So Conservative is saying Micho supports something along the lines of lesbian illegal immigrants. Conservative, how did you come to that conclusion? And does that make sense to you Gilbert? I thought you were smart enough to figure that one out on your own.
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    Minuteman wrote...
    Not just the Government
    but from American tax payers trying to raise their kids. From schools,police fire, roads etc.
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    Steve wrote...
    I agree
    that's a bit to much.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    No I don't. I think that Congress should be
    working towards a system of comprehensive immigration reform that takes account of economic and social realities, including reviewing our tax laws as they relate that issue.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    The same principle that you just espoused
    applies equally to you. If you don't like the law that allows this tax credit, leave the country.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    The law permits them to reclaim some
    of the taxes that they paid into the system.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    You'll want to make an informed
    comment by reading the report referenced in the article. Just now, you sound like an uninformed hysteric.
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    Minuteman wrote...
    Who sounds uninformed Abo
    from the article "Even though they may be here illegally and aren't supposed to have a Social Security number, the Internal Revenue Service still requires them to pay taxes and gives aliens a special identification number to file a return". Notice it states aren't supposed to have Social Security numbers leaving the door open to the fact that some do..
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    Minuteman wrote...
    Why should congress change a
    system that already lets more immigrants into the country as naturalized citizens than all other countries combined. The problem is not with the system, its with the 20 million illegals that flooded the borders and now want citizenship without going through the proper channels. In my oppinion thats rewarding them for breaking every law they break which starts at either the border or visa over stay.
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    Minuteman wrote...
    That is not the law of the land
    for them to commit tax fraud. How many of them claimed more than they were allowed under this. We know that criminals do just that commit crime as is shown by these examples of illegals claiming multiple dependants. No wonder there is such deficits
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    Minuteman wrote...
    Yeah like the 20 "dependents"
    claimed in one trailer
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    Michoacan wrote...
    Economic realities of American commerce
    And the American business people tied to it argue differently.
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    Steve wrote...
    It's called a loophole
    The law wasn't intended for them to do this. The Republicans have tried to fix it and have received opposition from the Democrats.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    It's the law. If you don't like it, work to
    Change it.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    The article discusses the use of tax IDs
    For allowable credits. The interest in changing the subject is yours alone.
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    Minuteman wrote...
    American people
    and real Immigrants disagree with you
    Protect our borders and our communities
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    Minuteman wrote...
    Here you are
    supporting those people as always abo. Its not the law to allow for tax fraud.
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    Minuteman wrote...
    The article
    clearly states what I posted as well..
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