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PHOENIX -- A group that advocates for pro-gun, state legislation said Wednesday guns should be allowed in Arizona public schools to provide protection against shootings such as the one in Connecticut.

``It's long past time to, at the very least, allow our school faculty and staff the option to be trained and armed,'' the Arizona Citizens Defense League said in a statement. ``Only then will they be capable of dealing with a situation like this.''

Amid public debate over what to do in response to the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary, the league is ``now looking at things that can be done to heighten security in schools,'' spokesman Charles Heller said during an earlier interview. ``We hadn't been before.''

Arizona law now generally bans taking guns on school grounds.

The statement by the league decried the violence in Connecticut and stopped short of announcing a 2013 legislative proposal to allow guns on campuses.

Heller said his group is considering options, but he couldn't discuss specifics. The session starts in mid-January, and no proposed bills filed as yet deal with gun issues.

A teachers union leader said everybody wants to protect students but allowing school personnel to have guns on campuses would pose safety and security threats, partly by opening the door to unintended consequences.

``That's the last thing on their minds, to be carrying firearms in close proximity to students,'' said Arizona Education President Andrew Morrill. ``That's not going to help.''

Gun control proposals went nowhere in the Republican-led Arizona Legislature after the January 2011 shooting that wounded then-Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson.

In the next two legislative sessions, state lawmakers twice approved bills to allow guns in many public buildings without airport-style security and once to allow them on higher-education campuses.

However, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed all three versions of those two bills that reached her desk. She said in May her veto of the latest such bill reflected public unease.

Matthew Benson, a Brewer spokesman, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the league's statement.

Arizona has permissive gun laws and a Wild West heritage. Guns can be carried openly, sometimes jolting newcomers, particularly in urban areas.

On Monday, Brewer sounded disinclined to weaken the right to bear arms in response to the Connecticut shooting.

``I'm not sure if it's something that needs to be addressed in that respect,'' Brewer said, adding that a stronger behavioral health system ``would probably be something that we ought to look into.''

Hildy Saizow, president of Arizonans for Gun Safety, said relaxation of gun-free zones at schools and other places would be ``really extremist legislation.''

Instead, now is the time to support national legislation that should include toughening requirements for background checks of gun purchasers, Saizow said.

Alan Korwin, a Scottsdale author and publisher of books on gun laws, said the media is whipping public sentiment into a ``mob mentality'' in favor of new gun restrictions after the Connecticut shootings.

That ignores the benefits of allowing guns where they're not now allowed, he said.

Gun-free zones ``enable criminals and infringe on the rights and abilities of Americans to protect themselves and their children,'' Korwin said. ``We trust teachers with our children. Certainly they should be qualified'' to have guns at schools.

An Arizona legislator who sponsored a bill after the 2011 Tucson shooting to prohibit extended magazines that hold more than 10 bullets said it would be dangerous to allow guns at schools.

``I do not see anything good of a massive arms race on our college campuses or, God forbid, on our elementary schools,'' said Rep. Steve Farley. ``There's no good that's going to come of that.''

Farley, a Tucson Democrat who becomes a state senator in January, said he won't re-introduce a new version of his bill in 2013. Such restrictions are best handled by Washington to avoid a patchwork of state laws, he said.

Farley said he proposed the 2011 bill because Tucson shooter Jared Loughner fired 30 shots from a handgun with an extended magazine. Six people were killed and 13 injured in the attack, and Farley said there would have been less carnage if Loughner had to reload sooner.

Farley's bill died after not getting a hearing from a House committee.

Farley also said he wants the Legislature to consider providing adequate funding for programs to identify and treat mentally ill people and to protect children from physical abuse so they don't develop psychological problems.

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    wrote...
    Look at the
    idiots in the AZ legislature that passed the law that you don't need a permit to carry a concealed weapon. There is some real smarts.
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    OneWonders wrote...
    Hopefully
    a law written like this doesn't mean anyone can carry in a school but just opens it up to trained faculty that have to be tested yearly, psychological and shooting skill tests. And how perfect, homeland security has ordered like a billion rounds of 40's. They have the ammo for teachers to train with.
    Equal Justice, Not Social Justice.
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    wrote...
    Really...Really!!!
    Yea, lets arm teachers...they have a bad day, a verbally abusive student, their wife or husband leaves them, or they just have a really unrully class and then they snap! Just like most of the other shooters that kill innocents because of their personal problems or mental issues. The only person that should be carrying a firearm in a school or public building is a sworn, trained and vetted officer of the law. Yea...cause giving more weapons out is always the right answer...sheesh!
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    OneWonders wrote...
    Taking them
    away isn't the right answer either!
    Equal Justice, Not Social Justice.
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    rosebud1951 wrote...
    Armed & trained
    like police and military are trained? The fort hood guy went off, again gun safe zone? Cops go off? But, if more than one teacher or administrator is trained, chances are they won't do AS much carnage. Kids in Israel are safe because the teachers are armed with AK-47, no mass shootings in their schools. . http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/images/blog/israeli-school-kids.jpg http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2012/12/17/front-sight-special-blog-psych-drugs-not-guns-doing-the-killing/#vid1
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    az83 wrote...
    I'm outraged.
    I'm outraged at these sick evil people that can slaughter innocents without resistance. I'm outraged that society boldly blames an inanimate object as the cause, not the person or ourselves, for what we have created. I’m outraged at the media for its unwavering bias against guns. I'm outraged at the politicians for trying to further an already flawed agenda. I'm outraged that we give these killers a safe place to go on their killing sprees.
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    gilbert armenta wrote...
    american culture
    is to blame. We are a violent culture. For all our claims of civility and rational thinking at our core we're more violent than most places. This is a down right ignorant proposal. Violent crimes are down http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/glance/viort.gif crazy things will always happen, banning guns will not fix our culture, nor will allowing guns into classrooms.
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    wrote...
    Really!!!
    And these police officers dont have the same issues...??? People didnt mass kill children in the old west, crazy, angry or otherwise...wonder what stopped them!
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    OneWonders wrote...
    Hey Gilbert
    Please move to Libya, Egypt or Iran and let me know if you still think we are that violent. Last time I checked, we don't have regular beheading's, stoning's, group rape's. I will disagree with you on that one. But for the other things, you are correct, crime rate is down and at the same time, the last 10 years firearm ownership is up. You are correct, banning guns won't work, look at the violence in Chicago and NYC, both banned guns and their numbers show that hasn't worked. If it worked, Mayor Bloomberg wouldn't need armed bodyguards surrounding him.
    Equal Justice, Not Social Justice.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    A nutzo response to an insane act.
    Are we really expecting to turn all of our Nation's schools into armed posts under siege? Let's get real. Our Nation's zany gun culture has made it the most gun violent country among industrialized, first world nations. This absurd proposal will only push us further in that direction. Their are saner responses to the relatively infrequent, mass gun killings.

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